How This Streamer Turned A Whole Community Against Her - Pokimane | TRO

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Published: 3 months ago
The Right Opinion: How This Streamer Turned A Whole Community Against Her - Pokimane | TRO

Now I’ve covered Twitch streamers, before, and I’ll cover Twitch streamers again, because they are a highly interesting set of people, and in spite of the fact that many of them are categorised by commentators, they are all at least somewhat distinguished in what they do. In a video last year I covered Zoie Burgher, someone whose rise to meteoric stardom was paired with an equally catastrophic fall, she was an absolute magnet of drama, and one of the more sexually suggestive characters out of that legion, but at the same time, she was her own individual character, she was banned off Twitch, and mainly gained infamy for antics on YouTube and subsequent drama. On the other hand we have female streamers, who may well be considered attractive by the audience, I mean, who doesn’t want to look their best on camera, but at the same time doesn’t necessarily seek to exploit that. And this is where we reach Pokimane.

Pokimane is someone who is established on both YouTube and Twitch, with over two and a half million subscribers slash followers on each platform, that’s something which cannot be ignored, she does some gaming, she does some reaction based videos, but overall, as people go she’s not an individual who has received exceptional attention. This is fairly typical for most genres, with a fairly undemanding audience, much less demanding than the ones who watch critical commentators like myself. Most commentators also tend to have a list of people who are controversial and easy to make videos on, this is a rotating list of people, typically including Ricegum, the Pauls, Morgz, KSI, Deji, with a bit of variation between certain YouTubers, maybe you’re a bit more interested in people like Emma Chamberlain, maybe you like making thought pieces on who the next Content Cop is gonna be on or even if there will be a new Content Cop. What this means is that although people will be doing shady or at least debatable actions, if the public isn’t focusing on them then it’ll probably pass under the radar, and a lot of creators, including the person we’re going to discuss today have been sheltered from that sort of environment.

However, as spoken about in the past, the alienation of drama, can often mean that when it eventually does confront one of these people, it means that they are way out of their depth with no idea of how to actually handle it, generally this has meant that in the history of Twitch Streamers vs Commentators, the Twitch Streamers tend to lose. Looking back to Pyrocynical vs Zoie Burgher, Pewdiepie vs Alinity, and yes, in both of those situations, it’s fairly reasonable to argue that you could side with Pyrocynical and Pewdiepie in the situations regardless of the outcome, but as much as the circumstance does comprise the drama, the handling, and presentation are equally important. Another real problem is how a lot of this drama can often be perceived, exposé videos have been monopolised recently by the commentary genre, and so attempting to make any sort of response to them, is the equivalent of going to play an away match, you’re entering someone else’s stadium, and you’ll be attracting their audience, even if you’re responding on your own channel. One of the problems with a lot of drama is that it always feels like an us vs them, you really are expected to side with one of the people involved, and often there is a clear moral high ground when it comes to the claims, but often when there isn’t we have to look a bit closer than many people choose to.

The thing about drama, is that whatever yields from it can be assumed as some sort of moral standard, even though we often forget about the conclusions we make and just contradict ourselves in the future, I’m a man who does enjoy some sort of consistency, because whatever disputes occur do have reputational legacies, and it’s important that we’re holding people to account, but not unfairly singling them out because of some subconscious bias, so let’s talk about today’s situation.

On the 28th of December, a very small YouTuber by the name of Fainted released a video called “The Dark Side of Pokimane”, in which he alleged, that while the public’s back was turned, Pokimane had done some pretty shady stuff, I’ll be breaking down the details in a moment, but like some of the infamous streamers in the past, some of the main claims were on the notion of copyright striking, or as many people now like to call it, “copystriking”, firstly in the incident of a series of uploaded Twitter clips on a feud between her and Keemstar, and secondly on a channel that reuploaded stream clips of her, known as DavCev. These are both fairly separate situations, but fell under the umbrella of criticism that Pokimane was facing down.

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EDITING CREDITS BELOW: Hope this video will do for now, have a more ambitious one coming soon.
Not entirely happy with how the audio came out in this video, which might mean it’s a tad off my preference for next couple videos. Also sorry if the filter on the third part is a bit strong, did ask the guy if he could change it but he’d deleted the files, don’t worry, he won’t be eating for a week. Also don't know why the visuals restart at around the 11 minute mark, please forgive me. I hope you enjoy the video nonetheless, had trouble coming to confident grips with the draft versions.


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3 months ago

Old vid, I know, but you are good enough of a commentator that listening is the enjoyment in and of itself.

I just realized that the case Keemstar may have been referencing involves a British channel by the name of Cassette Boy if I recall correctly. I've heard the name come up in a similar context because he was sued for copyright in the UK over his style of video, that being to cut up interviews and lines of one of the British Top Gear hosts and reassemble them with some picture changes. The courts ruled that to be fair use, despite the fact that Cassette Boy offered none of himself in any of his videos, it was all the host's words, just rearranged by Cassette Boy.

Since you didn't know then, and I think I may have hit the nail on the head here, posting for your benefit.

3 weeks ago

what city appears at 0:06 and what is the game at 0:38?

1 month ago


2 months ago

At 24:51 your Youtube upload screen is in Turkish, lan yoksa?

2 months ago

Hey, The Right Opinion. I really loved this video and watched the entire thing instead of eating breakfast. Your arguments are exceptionally well worded and I look forward to watching more of your content.

2 months ago

Her name is literally stolen content.

6 hours ago

So she can show his Instagram because it's made public but he cant show her Twitter and public statements? It was fair use, it wasnt even originally on YouTube.

6 hours ago

This guy talks too much

12 hours ago

That fucking surf gameplay in the background, shows how much time it must have took, to have come up with the ramble of this ONE TOPIC, for 37 fucking minutes...
Jesus christ dude, I get it. She did a bad. I don't need it told to me 77 different times, in 77 different formats...
You could've talked about the practice instead and had something interesting to say about it, but no... the same shit, about the same person, with the same slideshows in the background for 37-38 minutes.

17 hours ago

This guy gets less credit than he should

20 hours ago

the persona music in the background makes me so happy

21 hours ago

I thought this was about alinity

1 day ago

I Will Never be Against Her She's Amazing

1 day ago

All these streamers are fuck heads.

2 days ago

Awesomely made vid

2 days ago is my favorite game

2 days ago


3 days ago

Eee my nigga i'm about this asian whores career i'm not gonna spare any whores on this christian site...

5 days ago

I got bored so I clicked on this video.

5 days ago

eWhore. No matter how many white knights she has.

1 week ago

scuffed budget knock off Colossal made to fool people into thinking its high quality because its a long video and the narrator has a similar sounding voice OMEGALUL

1 week ago

Lmao at everyone being anti Pokemane becuzz fukk womanz!!!!! Get over yourselves you twats

1 week ago

i love when she bullied a little kid on fortnite instead of muting him

1 week ago

Hh this one is a tougher cookie hail.

1 week ago

Loving the music choices in this video

1 week ago

she looks like quackity if he was female

1 week ago

I'm pretty late to this vid since I discovered you like a week ago but nice taste in music. P5 has a spicy soundtracks

1 week ago

4 ads in a 37 minute video, that's pretty nice tbh

1 week ago

let me guess .. she's guilty whatever she tries or says? It's getting old.

1 week ago

I HATE these cry baby bitches who use copyright strikes to settle vendettas.

1 week ago

She kinda looks like the female snapchat filter

1 week ago

Sooooo basically a bunch of malechildren got upset because a beautiful woman called them out on their bullshit. I've never heard of any of these people but it's clear Poky is in the right. The instagram drama was especially embarrassing; If it's public then who cares? Make it private if you don't want comments. These males are so pathetic.

1 week ago

Please make a video on james charles

1 week ago

TL;DW: Pokimane made an oopsie, her defence was somewhat clumsy, but she isn't really a bad person, just naive.

correct me if i misunderstood something

2 weeks ago