Joe Rogan & Ben Shapiro on the Transgender Movement, Men vs. Women in Sports


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Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro talk about the transgender movement, the differences between men & women in sports, and Caitlyn Jenner.

Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #993.


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Joe, bring Ben Shapiro back again to discuss other things too...

4 minutes ago

Shapiro is not a specialist in this field. Scientists from Harvard and others around the world have demonstrated through MRI scans of the brain, that trangender people literally have the exact same physical brain structure as those of the opposite sex (citation: http://youtubesmov.com/mov/E5erlBOb7so/vid.html??t=230 and https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm). This is not a mental illness, this is physical. Secondly, transgenderism exists elsewhere in the animal kingdom. Thirdly gender is not binary, it is a spectrum just like everything else evolution throws up (citation: http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/). This cannot be a surprise given that evolution is a process involving random mutations. It also explains why we aren't all right handed when there isn't any clear genetic markers for left handed or ambidextrous people. Same goes for homosexuality. We are all somewhere on a bell curve. However some transgender people have been found to have certain genetic markers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality).
Caster Semenya has male chromosomes but born with external female sexual characteristics. So what you learnt at school about XX and XY chromosomes is hugely simplified.
Of course doctors are not perfect and some children may be wrongly diagnosed as transgender and that is why vigorous and lengthy safe guarding tests are required before any life altering treatment is provided. No doubt Shapiro has been indoctrinated that God could never create imperfect beings hence his stance on this subject, however his beliefs must not dictate policy for everybody else. Some transgender people are depressed and even suicidal that they are in the wrong body and so treatment should be focused on them. How would you feel if everyday people called you and treated you the opposite gender that you were, it would drive you nuts, just imagine it. On the other hand, some transgender people are okay to remain in their original body, usually due to the hassle, taboo, expense and aggravation involved in changing sex, so the choice whether to receive treatment should always lie with the patient and it is illegal to force such treatment.

1 hour ago

Donald Trump would be a stunning and brave transgender lesbian woman of color... Stop whitewashing trans-orange culture.

3 hours ago

I don't think Caitlyn Jenner is a hero.

4 hours ago

Im trans-age. I identify as a 65yr old, can i collect social security

7 hours ago

Counter you can make to the suicide is, "Transgender people have a higher suicide rate than Veterans, EMS, and Law Enforcement combined. People who are sometimes hated. People who sometimes have kill somebody. And people who have to sometimes comfort/hold somebody as they die...

8 hours ago

Genetic engineering and Ai, is where all this is leading up to

13 hours ago

I have been constantly been saying this everything Ben Shapiro has been saying --- IF WE CANT SEE THIS IS ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT OR OVERLOOK BLACK PPL'S SUFFERING THEN U ARE REALLY BLIND TO WHATS REALLY GOING ON.... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH --- NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DISRESPECT ANOTHER ----- NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOWEVER, IF U BELONG TO THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY ITS OKAY TO DO WHATEVER ---- ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

14 hours ago

trump is the first cultural president; he affects culture, not policy- he's all talk.

15 hours ago

ok, but if we acknowledge transgenderism is a mental condition then what is the best course of action? If its something innate then it can never be 'therapied away' like a mental illness can. It's definitely a more right-leaning proposition that brains are gendered which actually works to solidify the validity of the transitional process as if someone has a female brain but a male biology then their female brain is as innate to their being as their chromosomes are innate to their biology. I think its a misnomer to posit that transgender people wish to identify as fully male/female as from what I've observed most rather identify as a trans male/female- which is an important distinction, so with all this considered how then is the current course of treatment for transgenderism, with the end goal being that you become a 'transgender male/female', not the most efficacious course of action?

16 hours ago

Joe is woke as fuck

17 hours ago

Joe Rogan is very interesting

17 hours ago

“I get so much shit for this”😂😂😂😂

17 hours ago

As a white man i identify as a black man around black people,what up my niggaz

21 hours ago

Trans:girl says fuck with me
Me:bet
Trans:(pulls up skirt)
Me. 32:43

22 hours ago

32:28 I JUST DONT WANT DICK

22 hours ago

EAT THE COST OMG dawwwg I'm crying LOOOOOOOL

1 day ago

To sum it up.....This world is going to shit very fast.

1 day ago

Shapiro has used that argument of suicide quite often, but by his logic there must be something mentally wrong with white people if all you are going to look at is suicide rates. BEFORE YOU ALL START WRITING YOUR RACIST RESPONSES I WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW I AM A SOUTHERNER AND ABOUT AS WHITE AS YOU CAN GET. I ONLY STATED A FACT WHICH IS WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT. I don't have a problem with him and I think he is very well educated, but he is doing the exact same thing that he rails against which is using selective statistics to show correlation when it simply hasn't been established. As someone whose job it is to study data and patterns, I can safely say that he is using flawed logic, and considering how educated he is I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing. He's a smart person but he should probably leave the topic of medical conditions and social patterns to those who are educated in those fields. I am not surprised by his use of this flawed argument though considering he went to law school where you are literally trained to distort the truth to try and prove your point at any cost, which is why people hate lawyers. I have had to hire a lawyer before and he succeeded at winning my case even though everyone in the court room, including me, knew I was in the wrong, but my lawyer was able to distort the facts, which is why he got paid so much.

1 day ago

am going to quote Fernando Paz talking about this madness...What we are facing is a antropological revolution the last rebelion of man against creation, now the WILL is everything nothing can determine what am I, not even my nature,my anatomy, or biology...

1 day ago

Great conversation.

1 day ago

if you set the playback speed to 0.5 ben Shapiro talks normal

1 day ago

just call them cousin it......

1 day ago

Ew traps...

2 days ago

there you @ 18min. that is right!

2 days ago

I wonder if the transgender woman/man who had the baby had the surgery done? Was it a big deal because the baby came out of a mutilated body part?

2 days ago

3:15 joe rogan knows his fan base lmao

2 days ago

IT'S MA'AM!

2 days ago

The whole gender thing is like someone who goes by their middle name. When you call a trans person their biological gender it is upfront disrespectful. Just like calling someone by their first name when they go by their middle name. You know you’re being disrespectful. Get over your pride and respect your fellow Americans

2 days ago

quan m awesome bro fuckin awesome

2 days ago