Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene


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Published: 6 days ago
Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead.

Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur.

At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained,

"That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie."

Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said,

"There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'"

Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said,

"Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting."

Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene!

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How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?

6 days ago

@Joseph Bernard Lets just agree to disagree. In my opinion a 100% imaginary movie is as lame as it gets but I would never really hate the movie because I don't believe for a second what you do but I think eventually I will be proved correct if they do a sequel which is looking more & more possible especially since the movie is making so much $$$. I saw that same exact interview with Joaquin Phoenix & you are looking way to into it. He is just being honest. He simply never really had a dream of working as an actor aside a Batman actor in Batman movie. Thats it. Also that doesn't mean he doesn't want to be in a batman movie. He never had a dream of playing Jpker either but now he sais it was his favorite role. You'll see...when the sequal comes out it will be obvious that the whole thing was imaginary theory is crap & the director was the real Joker here cause he played a huge joke on you.

7 hours ago

Only thing that happened between him and that girl was in the elevator. The date never happened nor him kissing her at the door

9 hours ago

@Todd Brown I did most of that after seeing it for the second time. If you rewatch it with that idea then the stuff is easier to catch. Joaquins performance makes you miss it the first time.

9 hours ago

@Tad Macudzinski after the train full of clowns he went off smoking with his right hand, and in theory everyone knew the "you get what you fucking deserve" from the tv cast. Just pointing out, im still intrigued trying to find out the true. The clock seems like the strongest evidence, but being a delusion in a delusion (neighbor) its pretty strange, although ive heard that the romance was originally "real" and not disacreditated with extra scenes. So in that case it would make more sense that everything was a delusion, but trying to point out that in the movie are delusions with that neighbor thing made it confusing. Maybe theyre just fucking with us and made it confusing on purpouse without really solid real "right" point of view. I hope there is a right answer because if not it would be a cheap mindfuck and a waste of time. (I saw the killing joke, so it makes sense that its all a lie)(also i saw an image from a comic where joker said that he wanna star his own movie and that would be the greatest joke, funny fact)

9 hours ago

I dont really think it matters which parts are real or not...the real point of the movie is the lack of mental healthcare in the US now...it appears he knew he needed help and was seeking it until all the funding to his program was cut...then the punch line, "what do you get when you mix unstable people and a society that treats them like crap...you get what you deserve...which I think is the directors statement on all the shootings going on with mentally unstable people behind it....IMO...

19 hours ago

This made me more upset than I was when I walked out of that movie

13 minutes ago

Arthur hooking up with that pretty girl was definitely a hallucintion lol I was like yeah right.. just like that? It makes sense now haha

17 minutes ago

What people are missing so crucially is, is that the story was purposely made to be in the perspective of a delusional man.

Question, do people who hallucinate KNOW what are hallucinations or not? Answer : No

Seeing as EVERYTHING is in the perspective of Arthur, we cannot say for sure what has happened or what has not.
If this was a movie about anything or anyone other than "joker", then that makes for a SHIT movie.
However, due to the context of who this movie is about, it makes PERFECT sense as to how vague / confusing the story is.

If you're a fan of DC Joker, then you'd know exactly why Joker's origin is special, it's because he doesn't have one (canonically). A movie making one for him is of course going to get the ire of some fans, but seeing that it is set in his perspective, we cannot really say for certain if anything is really true.
One possibility is that this would be used as a narrative for the real joker (for the upcoming batman movie with Robert), wherein the joker is going on a monologue about how he got "these scars" (callback to Heath Ledger), and he'd say a summary of the movie + "and I was a spectator, and was inspired by him, so I used a razor to cut open my mouth, that's it".

23 minutes ago

Does anyone know what the Joker meant with that last „You wouldn‘t get it.“?

43 minutes ago

I'd like to believe it was very 50/50. And that he is the real Joker however some parts were exaggerated, or maybe even made up. It's like an "old tale" where it's core is true but the way it's told is perspective. Maybe this was the Joker's personal perspective, how it felt. Where as everything else is from a different perspective.

1 hour ago

If Arthur is not the Joker, then it defeats the purpose of the movie, in my opinion.

1 hour ago

What about the suicide scene with the refrigerator???....did he die??? ....

2 hours ago

Joker's Sequel: Turns out that Jared Leto has framed Arthur and waiting the right moment to reveal himself as the real Joker

2 hours ago

I wanna know NOWWWWWWW

2 hours ago

No, please. They created the best Joker's origin story ever. Don't tell me that it's fake or that Arthur was only an inspiration to "true" Joker. Please, don't.

3 hours ago

They said it's up to interpretation. It may be real, it may be a hallucination, there's no objectively correct answer.

2 hours ago

Ok. I have made this comment before on other videos but I'll say it again.
The fridge scene is important. Arthur Fleck did not come out from that fridge. Those fridges back in the days were known to be dead traps.
Any events happened after the fridge scene were just hallucinations of Arthur's oxygen deprived brain.
Joker doesn't have to be Arthur Fleck. Joker is not a one man , it is an idea. This is shown to us plenty times in the movie by everybody wearing clown masks
Even the comics never told us his real name.
The timeline is also consistent with this theory as Bruce Wayne won't be Batman for another 15 -20 years when he meets Joker which can not be Arthur Fleck as he would be roughly around 60 years old.
Yes folks , you heard me, Arthur Fleck died in that fridge.

3 hours ago

Relax on the depth behind the movie, how easy is it to write and film a story with imaginary twists leaving you to wonder the validity of it’s realism. Get over it pretentious Hollywood, it’s been there and done that manifolds over.

4 hours ago

lazy theory. video made just to ride the hype and catch views 🙄

4 hours ago

3:13 THANK GOD!!!

5 hours ago

Thank God, I think this version of Joker will better without Batman match up this should be it's own world if they decide to do a sequel.

5 hours ago

I don't wanna know about the last scene 😢

for me ... Everything was perfect to my senses 👌😚

5 hours ago

I think most of the ending actually happened. It shows development from the beginning.

6 hours ago

My theory is : he is already the Joker, the whole thing is one of his multiple choises of his past. This scene happened after he is captured by Batman and brought to the asylum. And i like to think that this version of Joker knows that bruce wayne is Batman but doesn't care about telling it to anyone. That's why bruce wayne's past is a part of his "Joke".

6 hours ago

"Then, why does he imagined that his past was tragic? He's the joker, he doest care about anything!".
Well, in the killing joke comic, he said to Batman :
"Something like that (a tragic past) happened to me, you know. I.. i'm not exactly sure what it was. Sometimes i remember it one way, sometimes another..."
"If im going to have a past, i prefer it to be multiple choise! HA HA HA.. "

6 hours ago

The name Arthur fleck might also be one of many names he thinks his real name is. Because the joker said in the killing joke comic that he remember his past to be some way and sometimes another.

6 hours ago

During the movie you see this guy with a clown mask watching Joker in the background through all of this, the same person that killed Bruce’s parents at the end and the Joker laughs and says “it’s between me and him” - “him” being the real Joker.

6 hours ago

I hope that everything was not a dream

7 hours ago

but if he just imagined the whole movie (/scenes) in his head, why are bruces parents dead? something like a havoc must be happened

7 hours ago

This is awful...
Showing me this movie...
Telling me it's Joker's origin...
You just wanted to subvert my expectations....
You're just like the rest of 'um!

8 hours ago

Think for yourself. Determine your own perspective.

8 hours ago

If all of Joker's life is imagined, who's imagining it? Maybe not a specific person/character, but all of us. It's a movie: a "daydream" imagined by its authors and the public together in a sort of collective dream. We, as a society, produce our world: our dreams (as our acts) reflect that, including our fears and desires. So do movies. In a way, we are creating the Joker together: we give him life as the people wearing the mask give him a collective status, a "recognized" villain identity.

8 hours ago

I took it that fleck joker is a symbol of the madness spreading in Gotham. And at the end we see the person that becomes the joker kill batman parents.

8 hours ago

Arthur wont face bruce bcoz by the time bruce became batman arthur is already a senior citizen

8 hours ago

I hate y'all, now am thinking too. Much

9 hours ago

Another theory I've had is Arthur Fleck isn't even in Gotham City, and what plays out is an elaborate fantasy in the head of someone in the real world with a disillusion obsession with the comic book character.

9 hours ago

I really dislike this theroy because they made it clear to me this is the real joker the way he laughs the way he acts and the way his life connects with Bruce Wayne if this is some random guy and the joker is inspired due to his story I will be very disappointed because why even make ties to Bruce why even make his mum have a past with the Wayne family even if she was crazy they obviously knew her it makes no sense to me.

10 hours ago